I think it is that “Paul French” guy was “bullshitting”, I am just using his words. Pudong was almost nothing but fields back to say 20 years ago. Yes, there were some factories along the Huanghu River. Five mins walk is all you need to reach a rice field after steps off from any ferry terminal.
Ummm…whatever Fact-i-boy, you don’t seem to know your ass from a hole in the ground. Do you even know where Shanghai is? Go stuff your mouth with Xiao Long Bao so we don’t have to listen to your crap anymore.
On Feb 8, 2005 4:09 AM, Doug said:
Whoa, Todd, from where did that diatribe arise? Was that necessary? What was Fact even saying? Do you think he knows what he was saying and what he had read? It seems not. But your violent attack hardly seems justified or appropriate.
Have a great Spring Festival, eh?
On Feb 10, 2005 12:34 AM, Fact said:
Don’t understand what got your so angry… It seems that a hole in the ground is all you need to stuck your head into and point your ass to the sky so everyone can see the ugly side of you.
Of course much of Pudong was farmland - and still is. However, those that tell you they stood on the Bund and gazed across at farms must be about 115 years old. Perhaps you might want to buy a copy of the excellent new collection of photographs put together by Xu Xixian and Xu Jianrong called A Changing Shanghai and published by the Shanghai People’s Fine Arts Publishing House - the book includes photographs of Shanghai taken in the 1970s and 1980s and then the same shots taken in the last couple of years. The contrast is of course startling - however if you can see any farmland from the Bund side across the river then you have better eyesight than me and more focus than the photographers lens. You will also see many photos of Pudong inland that show that much of the area was built up despite persistent claims that it was all paddy fields and chicken farms.
On Feb 21, 2005 11:43 AM, Fact said:
The strip along the HuangPu river was already built up with warehouses and shipyards, among other structures. Yes, it is not possible to see farmland from the Bund. But the farmland is not far away - a five mins walk from the river bank would do….
On May 6, 2005 11:26 PM, Eurotrash said:
I suggest you dont mess with Tall Paul (French) if you dont want to end up in a North Korean reeducation labour camp.
Buy his very interesting book on North Korea and you’ll know what I mean.
Interesting, I just found this link while looking for links to my site off of Yahoo via link:http://www.bloggedy.com/. Seems there was a spoof of me above. Do you have the logged IP address?
Anyway, the map looks really cool. Was a very different city back then. It’s also interesting to note also that in the early part of the last century, Shanghai was considered “domestic” for the U.S. postal service - it was just as expensive/cheap to mail things to Shanghai as inside of the continental U.S. The pre-liberation history of Shanghai is very interesting.
Next time I’m in Shanghai I’ll see about getting a map.
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I think it is that “Paul French” guy was “bullshitting”, I am just using his words. Pudong was almost nothing but fields back to say 20 years ago. Yes, there were some factories along the Huanghu River. Five mins walk is all you need to reach a rice field after steps off from any ferry terminal.
Ummm…whatever Fact-i-boy, you don’t seem to know your ass from a hole in the ground. Do you even know where Shanghai is? Go stuff your mouth with Xiao Long Bao so we don’t have to listen to your crap anymore.
Whoa, Todd, from where did that diatribe arise? Was that necessary? What was Fact even saying? Do you think he knows what he was saying and what he had read? It seems not. But your violent attack hardly seems justified or appropriate.
Have a great Spring Festival, eh?
Don’t understand what got your so angry… It seems that a hole in the ground is all you need to stuck your head into and point your ass to the sky so everyone can see the ugly side of you.
Of course much of Pudong was farmland - and still is. However, those that tell you they stood on the Bund and gazed across at farms must be about 115 years old. Perhaps you might want to buy a copy of the excellent new collection of photographs put together by Xu Xixian and Xu Jianrong called A Changing Shanghai and published by the Shanghai People’s Fine Arts Publishing House - the book includes photographs of Shanghai taken in the 1970s and 1980s and then the same shots taken in the last couple of years. The contrast is of course startling - however if you can see any farmland from the Bund side across the river then you have better eyesight than me and more focus than the photographers lens. You will also see many photos of Pudong inland that show that much of the area was built up despite persistent claims that it was all paddy fields and chicken farms.
The strip along the HuangPu river was already built up with warehouses and shipyards, among other structures. Yes, it is not possible to see farmland from the Bund. But the farmland is not far away - a five mins walk from the river bank would do….
I suggest you dont mess with Tall Paul (French) if you dont want to end up in a North Korean reeducation labour camp.
Buy his very interesting book on North Korea and you’ll know what I mean.
It could be arranged
Interesting, I just found this link while looking for links to my site off of Yahoo via link:http://www.bloggedy.com/. Seems there was a spoof of me above. Do you have the logged IP address?
Anyway, the map looks really cool. Was a very different city back then. It’s also interesting to note also that in the early part of the last century, Shanghai was considered “domestic” for the U.S. postal service - it was just as expensive/cheap to mail things to Shanghai as inside of the continental U.S. The pre-liberation history of Shanghai is very interesting.
Next time I’m in Shanghai I’ll see about getting a map.