You are informed indeed. I guess you’ve got an English version of this email, or you’ve got an interpreter. Here are the other tips: Don’t go for the policemen because they are just doing their job and they are patriotic. Don’t smash the Japanese shops, or our government will have to pay for it.
These make sense. It is not easy to keep one’s head in the flush of patriotic sentiments.
On Apr 15, 2005 4:50 PM, glenn strueby said:
Hi
In the name of decency stay home
Yeah I am talking to you
The world needs less protest more understanding
OK?
Um, yeah. I think I get the “implied” meaning. But what is so bad about being an adult? This whole situation, I think, could use more people who act like adults.
Yes, ‘implied poem’(藏头诗) is very popular in acient China. People use it to express their ideas( usually political ones) which they are not allowed to. But usually implied poems are very interesting, not like the one you read. :)
On Apr 16, 2005 12:23 AM, Tony said:
sounds like a beijinger wrote those instructions.
am i saying shanghainese are more rational, reasonable and cool headed than people from beijing, guangzhou and other places?
Well, let’s just say you won’t find me at that protest.
On Apr 16, 2005 12:30 PM, Anonymous said:
you shanghai fuckers are so typical. get off your high horse, you fuckin idiot!
On Apr 16, 2005 12:44 PM, Anonymous said:
tony,
i think you are in search of a shoe to lick. i’m guessing you prefer to have one from a jap. there are plety of japs where i live (bay area, CA), i can ask one of them to ship you one.
On Apr 16, 2005 4:40 PM, Anonymous said:
dont go for protest against japanese. without japan china cant develop. let just let history to be history. if still dont let it go, i would have to tell you the truth that our Communist government is the very one should be damned. think about it, who defeated japanese invasion? whose bleedingly crazy political campaign left 10 millions of chinese people starved to death? who killed thousands of students 1989? what does our history textbook say about this? huh!!!dont be silly my fellow chinese comrades
On Apr 16, 2005 10:57 PM, Anonymous said:
apparently, another boot licker…
On Apr 16, 2005 11:22 PM, bonnie said:
Anonymous ,what position are you in?If you stand as high as our leaders of our Government,you may understand them a little more. I don’t quite know how to rule a country and how to make the whole country people live a better-off life,but I bet it’s quite hard to accomplish what we have done.
And,but for the former very big mistakes made by our former leader,we wouldn’t have experienced so much and achieved what we have now.I can only say,we learn a lot from the past.
But the Japan Issue is totally different from it. I hope I could have killed your mother,and still show no respect to you and your offsprings and let you feel more!But I won’t do that,never,because I am not a right-wing Japanese!
On Apr 16, 2005 11:29 PM, Anonymous said:
well…damn japanese…
On Apr 17, 2005 12:01 AM, Bonnie said:
thank you for understanding,Anonymous:)
And ,Dan,I read the email u posted, I guess the girl don’t know much about what the colleges and universities administrative leaders did.They called many students(including me) to ask them whether they would take part in it,and if the students said “yes”,the teachets would try to persuade them not to go there,stay calm and pay more attention to their study,”don’t disturb the ordinary Japanese’s life”is what my teacher asked me to do.
dont go for protest against japanese. without japan china cant develop. (without japan, im sure china can still develop. china economic growth right now is increasing far more rapidly than japan’s) let just let history to be history. (history to be history? what about the millions of civilians who have been murdered and humiliated? do you think the nazis and al quelda should not be eliminated and punished? )if still dont let it go, i would have to tell you the truth that our Communist government is the very one should be damned. (yes i agree and isn’t that why the 1989 protest occur in the first place? not many people still like the government anyways. what’s the connection between japanese genoicide with the communisim government anyways?)think about it, who defeated japanese invasion? whose bleedingly crazy political campaign left 10 millions of chinese people starved to death? who killed thousands of students 1989?(the american government fired into tens thousands of wwi veterans during the depression. kkk burned and terriozed thousands of blacks. more than half of the native americans population were killed by the whites(genocide). every country has its own mistakes) what does our history textbook say about this? huh!!!dont be silly my fellow chinese comrades( you are the one being silly. you betrayed your own country. the communism government’s killings are all in the textbook of other countries but not the japanese’s genocides. they are justified because japan is a “democratic” country.)
On Apr 17, 2005 12:59 AM, arale said:
I really feel bad on all of you, except Bonnie.
On Apr 17, 2005 1:35 AM, quietDesperation said:
On Apr 16, 2005 4:40 PM, Anonymous said:
dont go for protest against japanese. without japan china cant develop. let just let history to be history. if still dont let it go, i would have to tell you the truth that our Communist government is the very one should be damned. think about it, who defeated japanese invasion? whose bleedingly crazy political campaign left 10 millions of chinese people starved to death? who killed thousands of students 1989? what does our history textbook say about this? huh!!!dont be silly my fellow chinese comrades
our government might not be the best government on earth, but i don’t think it deserves to be damned yet (and btw, the figure on the deaths of students in 1989 is unconfirmed, so please be responsible to what you say)
you can sell your soul for money huh? just because the cat feeds you filthy rat doesn’t mean it’s not gonna eat you
genocide of 300000 chinese in nanjing doesn’t mean anything to you does it? raping more than 20000 women can be history? what if one of these women was your grandmother?
you don’t be silly…
and dan, don’t link anymore CNN stories please. while it criticizes chinese text books, it has made some very serious mistakes in some of their own news reports
though the protest cant solve the problem, it shows the patriotic sentiments of the young generation.we are the hope of the future china.the protest turned out to be in order.no body did sth too crazy. i believe one day we can force the dammed japenese pigs apologize.no matter how long we have to wait, we will wait till the day to come.
It was an interesting day… but most of the protesters seemed keen on having a good day out in the park than really protesting.
On Apr 18, 2005 11:27 PM, Leo said:
It must be very amusing for Americans to watch Chinese and Japanese slapping each other. But let’s make a list what Americans won’t read in their own textbook:
1)When they blame communist dictatorship in China, they don’t mention in the two decades before 1949 they supported a fascist dictator Chiang Kai-Shek conditionlessly, who commited a massacre on at least 30,000 communists in 1927, caused numerous famines, extremely corrupt, and even once declared Hitler as his model. This case is of course in line with their support for the other bloodthirsty dictators like Pinochet, etc.
2)When they blamed communists on attack on India, Vietnam, they don’t mention their own “military interventions. For example, in Vietnam, in order to root out communist sympathetists, they burned down the whole villages, slaughtering all people who did not follow them out promptly, including seniors, children, and pregnant women.
3)When they blame Chinese communists for supporting Kmer Rouge, they don’t mention their support for Pol Pot in the U.N., not to mention the numurous food, equipments over the Thai border, which is in consistency with their later support for Saddam in order to counter Iranians.
Just name a few!
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I put it on my calendar[1], but not on Upcoming[2] :)
[1] http://china.calendars.net/micah/
[2] http://upcoming.org/metro/cn/sh/sh/
You are informed indeed. I guess you’ve got an English version of this email, or you’ve got an interpreter. Here are the other tips: Don’t go for the policemen because they are just doing their job and they are patriotic. Don’t smash the Japanese shops, or our government will have to pay for it.
These make sense. It is not easy to keep one’s head in the flush of patriotic sentiments.
Hi
In the name of decency stay home
Yeah I am talking to you
The world needs less protest more understanding
OK?
I just received this email from a former student:
“dan
do you know?
it is said some people have organized a protest this Saturday in People’s Square
the school administrations of different universities in Shanghai send out teachers, provides there might be some chaotic events
the power of internet makes the rumour once in air incredibly horrible.
everybody is talking about the protest
but i don’t think that will really happen in a large scale
by the way, what do you people from the States think about “Japan a permanent member of the United Nations Security Council”?
(name deleted)
ps. this morning i got the mail from (name deleted) (you must have the idea who i am talking about)
see if you can understand the implied meaning
最近突然发现一个有趣现象：
junk垃圾；
adult色鬼；
prostitute婊子；
ass 驴；
nasty下流；
evil魔鬼；
scamp流氓；
excrement臭狗屎
把这些英文字头放一起就是japanese—”
Um, yeah. I think I get the “implied” meaning. But what is so bad about being an adult? This whole situation, I think, could use more people who act like adults.
Yes, ‘implied poem’(藏头诗) is very popular in acient China. People use it to express their ideas( usually political ones) which they are not allowed to. But usually implied poems are very interesting, not like the one you read. :)
sounds like a beijinger wrote those instructions.
am i saying shanghainese are more rational, reasonable and cool headed than people from beijing, guangzhou and other places?
Well, let’s just say you won’t find me at that protest.
you shanghai fuckers are so typical. get off your high horse, you fuckin idiot!
tony,
i think you are in search of a shoe to lick. i’m guessing you prefer to have one from a jap. there are plety of japs where i live (bay area, CA), i can ask one of them to ship you one.
dont go for protest against japanese. without japan china cant develop. let just let history to be history. if still dont let it go, i would have to tell you the truth that our Communist government is the very one should be damned. think about it, who defeated japanese invasion? whose bleedingly crazy political campaign left 10 millions of chinese people starved to death? who killed thousands of students 1989? what does our history textbook say about this? huh!!!dont be silly my fellow chinese comrades
apparently, another boot licker…
Anonymous ,what position are you in?If you stand as high as our leaders of our Government,you may understand them a little more. I don’t quite know how to rule a country and how to make the whole country people live a better-off life,but I bet it’s quite hard to accomplish what we have done.
And,but for the former very big mistakes made by our former leader,we wouldn’t have experienced so much and achieved what we have now.I can only say,we learn a lot from the past.
But the Japan Issue is totally different from it. I hope I could have killed your mother,and still show no respect to you and your offsprings and let you feel more!But I won’t do that,never,because I am not a right-wing Japanese!
well…damn japanese…
thank you for understanding,Anonymous:)
And ,Dan,I read the email u posted, I guess the girl don’t know much about what the colleges and universities administrative leaders did.They called many students(including me) to ask them whether they would take part in it,and if the students said “yes”,the teachets would try to persuade them not to go there,stay calm and pay more attention to their study,”don’t disturb the ordinary Japanese’s life”is what my teacher asked me to do.
On Apr 16, 2005 4:40 PM, Anonymous said:
dont go for protest against japanese. without japan china cant develop. (without japan, im sure china can still develop. china economic growth right now is increasing far more rapidly than japan’s) let just let history to be history. (history to be history? what about the millions of civilians who have been murdered and humiliated? do you think the nazis and al quelda should not be eliminated and punished? )if still dont let it go, i would have to tell you the truth that our Communist government is the very one should be damned. (yes i agree and isn’t that why the 1989 protest occur in the first place? not many people still like the government anyways. what’s the connection between japanese genoicide with the communisim government anyways?)think about it, who defeated japanese invasion? whose bleedingly crazy political campaign left 10 millions of chinese people starved to death? who killed thousands of students 1989?(the american government fired into tens thousands of wwi veterans during the depression. kkk burned and terriozed thousands of blacks. more than half of the native americans population were killed by the whites(genocide). every country has its own mistakes) what does our history textbook say about this? huh!!!dont be silly my fellow chinese comrades( you are the one being silly. you betrayed your own country. the communism government’s killings are all in the textbook of other countries but not the japanese’s genocides. they are justified because japan is a “democratic” country.)
I really feel bad on all of you, except Bonnie.
On Apr 16, 2005 4:40 PM, Anonymous said:
dont go for protest against japanese. without japan china cant develop. let just let history to be history. if still dont let it go, i would have to tell you the truth that our Communist government is the very one should be damned. think about it, who defeated japanese invasion? whose bleedingly crazy political campaign left 10 millions of chinese people starved to death? who killed thousands of students 1989? what does our history textbook say about this? huh!!!dont be silly my fellow chinese comrades
____________________________________________________
our government might not be the best government on earth, but i don’t think it deserves to be damned yet (and btw, the figure on the deaths of students in 1989 is unconfirmed, so please be responsible to what you say)
you can sell your soul for money huh? just because the cat feeds you filthy rat doesn’t mean it’s not gonna eat you
genocide of 300000 chinese in nanjing doesn’t mean anything to you does it? raping more than 20000 women can be history? what if one of these women was your grandmother?
you don’t be silly…
and dan, don’t link anymore CNN stories please. while it criticizes chinese text books, it has made some very serious mistakes in some of their own news reports
and welcome to visit my blog
http://tofillthehour.blogspot.com/
though the protest cant solve the problem, it shows the patriotic sentiments of the young generation.we are the hope of the future china.the protest turned out to be in order.no body did sth too crazy. i believe one day we can force the dammed japenese pigs apologize.no matter how long we have to wait, we will wait till the day to come.
…thought I’d mention I posted some pics on my website. photojournaliste.ca
It was an interesting day… but most of the protesters seemed keen on having a good day out in the park than really protesting.
It must be very amusing for Americans to watch Chinese and Japanese slapping each other. But let’s make a list what Americans won’t read in their own textbook:
1)When they blame communist dictatorship in China, they don’t mention in the two decades before 1949 they supported a fascist dictator Chiang Kai-Shek conditionlessly, who commited a massacre on at least 30,000 communists in 1927, caused numerous famines, extremely corrupt, and even once declared Hitler as his model. This case is of course in line with their support for the other bloodthirsty dictators like Pinochet, etc.
2)When they blamed communists on attack on India, Vietnam, they don’t mention their own “military interventions. For example, in Vietnam, in order to root out communist sympathetists, they burned down the whole villages, slaughtering all people who did not follow them out promptly, including seniors, children, and pregnant women.
3)When they blame Chinese communists for supporting Kmer Rouge, they don’t mention their support for Pol Pot in the U.N., not to mention the numurous food, equipments over the Thai border, which is in consistency with their later support for Saddam in order to counter Iranians.
Just name a few!
I took the liberty of quoting from your blog in a newspaper column:
http://arabnews.com/?page=7§ion=0&article=62495&d=21&m=4&y=2005
Many thanks.
There’s an excellent page on two major and under-reported developments in Asia,
‘Japan Forges Strategic Link With India, Another Emerging Superpower’
and ‘India - Slumbering Superpower Flexes Its Muscles’
on the ‘New World Order Intelligence Update’ current news page.
There’s also a detailed and sobering warning on Iran, by Svott ritter, there -
‘Sleepwalking To Disaster In Iraq’